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Eliminated Decade-Long Back Pain and Enhanced Mental Clarity Through Qigong

Ben Moss

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Ben Moss, a busy realtor, reviewed Qiveda and reported that the Qigong practice eliminated chronic back pain he had struggled with for over a decade. Despite trying physical therapy and acupuncture, he found relief within three months of working with Greg. Moss also transitioned his 15-year meditation habit into a more enjoyable moving practice that enhances his professional focus.

At a glance

Primary Use Case
Chronic back pain relief and mental performance
Reported Result
Eliminated 10 years of back pain
Time to Value
3 months to notice significant physical change
I got rid of back pain that I've had for at least a decade. I've done acupuncture, I've done physical therapy, I've done ozone... This practice has changed my body physically.
There are days where I'm like, I should be stressed out, and I'm almost playing this game with my mind, but I'm not stressed out.
I can literally reach down, grab the football, pop back up and run with my eight year old. It doesn't get much better than that!

The interview

What was your life like before you started working with Greg at Qiveda?

I was on a quest of 15 years of personal development, including physical exercises, intuitive body connection, and 15 years of almost daily meditation. I was also struggling with lots of back pain that I thought I would just have to deal with for the rest of my life.

What made you decide to say yes to Qigong coaching?

It was a conversation I had with one of Greg's students at a dinner. We connected energetically, and after that conversation, I knew I had to sign up. When I realized you could work on your mental, physical, and energetic state all in the same practice, I was highly motivated.

How has your meditation practice changed since starting Qiveda?

I'm about seven months into my journey, and I have for the most part adopted my meditation practice to be my Qigong practice. Moving as a meditation is so much more enjoyable for me than just a sitting practice, and it took my level of present-moment awareness to the next level.

What happened to the chronic back pain you mentioned?

I had been forewarned that the pain would go away, but I didn't really believe it. Then, about three months into the practice, I realized the pain was gone. I've done acupuncture, physical therapy, and ozone to try to relieve this for at least a decade, but this practice actually changed my body physically.

How does this practice affect your professional life as a realtor?

I'm a busy realtor in the deal business where things are constantly falling apart or coming together. There are days where I should be stressed out, but I'm not. It has been a complete game-changer for my stress levels and awareness in real life.

What can you do now that you couldn't do before?

Little things like playing football with my eight-year-old son. Before, if he threw a low catch, I would feel weakness and pain in my hips and lower back when bending over. Now I can literally reach down, grab the football, pop back up, and run with him.

Why would you recommend Greg as a coach specifically?

Having a personal coach to translate the many nuances of the practice is indescribable and well worth the investment. If I started without Greg, I don't think I'd still be doing it. He shows up without ego or 'spiritual materialism' and focuses his attention on what you specifically need to achieve.

Frequently asked

Can Qigong actually fix long-term chronic back pain?

Yes, Ben Moss reported that after a decade of struggling with back pain and trying acupuncture, physical therapy, and ozone, his pain was gone within three months of starting Qiveda. He noted that the practice changed his body physically and improved his awareness of how he moves.

Is Qigong physically demanding enough for athletes?

Ben Moss, who regularly lifts weights and does sprint work, initially doubted the physicality of the practice. He admitted he was wrong, stating that the practice is surprisingly physically demanding and has improved his functional strength for activities like playing football with his son.

How does Qigong compare to traditional sitting meditation?

Ben Moss found that moving meditation is more enjoyable than his previous 15-year sitting practice. He has largely replaced his sitting meditation with Qigong, noting it provides a deeper level of present-moment awareness that carries over into his high-stress career.

Full transcript

Before working with Greg, I was on a quest of 15 years of personal development, and that includes physicality physical exercises, different ways to move the body, different ways to connect with the body, being more intuitive, finding ways to connect with the energetic body, and with things that were coming up in my body that maybe I was dismissive about. 15 years of almost daily meditation and one of two different kinds of meditation that I would practice regularly and lots of back pain that I was always struggling with that I thought would be just something that I had to deal with for the rest of my life. So what made me say yes to working with Greg as my Qigong coach was actually a conversation that I had with students at a dinner. Just somebody who I'd met that night. We connected energetically, had a great conversation, and I said, I've got to sign up with this guy. So that was how I got connected to Greg. And then once I got connected with Greg was an amazing thing. He has such a great essence. He is so pure in terms of his energy, in terms of his teachings, in terms of his desire to want to help you and really coach you in the specific way that you need to be coached and helped and develop this practice. Taking on a Qigong practice is a commitment. This is not easy. This is not minimal amount of time. This is what I would say is a lifestyle. You have to want it. If you know that there's something either missing or something that you can solve or something that you can take to the next level, I think those were all three things, primarily the last two, in my life I was just motivated when I said, whoa, you can work on your mental state, you can work on your physical state, you can work on your energetic state, all in the same practice. Like, where do I sign up for this? I'm about seven months into my Qigong journey and it's hard to know what you don't know. But quickly I started realizing, whoa, there's something here, there's something a lot more, a lot deeper that's this practice. So the first thing is I started realizing from a meditation perspective, my meditation became my Qigong practice. I still do a sitting meditation but I have, for the most part, adopted my meditation practice to be my Qigong practice. And moving as a meditation is so much more enjoyable for me than just a sitting practice. As far as the back pain, I had no idea that I had been forewarned that if I had back pain, it would go away, but I didn't really believe that. And then probably like, three months into the practice, I realized, oh, my gosh, there's something different to my body. There's something different here. I'm moving my body a different way. There's a different awareness. But the pain was gone. Now the pain can come back if I don't continue the practice. So that's a strong motivation for me to continue to practice. And there have been days where I just feel like, okay, I'm a busy realtor. I have deals. I'm in the deal business. Deals are falling apart. Deals are coming together. There are days where I'm like, I should be stressed out, and I'm almost playing this game with my mind, but I'm not stressed out. So the thing that I didn't realize was it took my level of present moment awareness that I'm trying to seek through meditation in real life to the next level. And that's been a complete game-changer as well. What surprised me the most about this Qigong practice was actually a lot of things. First of all, the physicality. I didn't you know, as somebody who lifts weights and does sprint work and, like, really high-intensity physical work, I didn't really anticipate or think or believe that this practice could be very physically demanding. Boy, I was wrong about that. I think the second thing was that I got rid of back pain that I've had for at least a decade. I've done acupuncture, I've done physical therapy, I've done ozone. I mean, I've done a lot of things to try to relieve this. This practice has changed my body physically. And the last thing, really that surprised me was just the level of meditation, the level of present moment awareness that I have been able to achieve by doing this practice. So it's like all these things in one, which is really incredible. So what I could do now that I was unable to do before was little things like playing football with my son. When he throws me a low catch, I would bend over and I would feel weakness in my right side, around the hips, lower back area, pain. I would just kind of muscle through it, if you will. Now I can literally reach down, grab the football, pop back up and run with my eight year old. So, I mean, that? It doesn't get much better than that! When you have back pain and you are able to release yourself of back pain, it's a game-changer. And so that has been an amazing thing. the other thing that really surprised me about this Qigong practice was This is the most important thing that I can do every single day, because it's how I show up for myself. And how I show up for myself is how I show up for others in every way, energetically, emotionally, mentally, physically. By doing this Qigong practice, my life is just better. It's just better in every way. I would recommend learning Qigong with Greg because having a personal coach that understands you and helps you on your journey and is able to translate the nuances of the practice, of which there are many, it's indescribable. This is well worth the investment. I think if I started doing Qigong without Greg teaching me, I don't think I still be doing it, quite honestly. Being able to bring all the facets of the Qigong practice into a 1-hour zoom with Greg every week or every other week has been really that's the difference between doing the practice and not doing the practice. It's the difference between changing your life and not changing your life. I would just like to say something about Greg. I mean, this guy I don't even know how they make the guy like this. I mean, how is he so limber and so physically able to do what he does? He's teaching you in ways not in a way that's egotistical or anything like that. No spiritual materialism. He just shows up for you. He's mastered life in many different ways and continues to be a student at the same time and so that energy just filters through. And so I feel very blessed to have met Greg. I want to go to his retreat center. but just being able to spend that time with him and having him direct his focus and attention towards me with what I'm trying to achieve on that particular day for that session is really priceless. Ben Moss, Miami, Florida.

About Qiveda

Qiveda offers a modern adaptation of Qigong, integrating movement, breathwork, and meditation to optimize physical and mental health. They serve individuals ranging from high-performance athletes to professionals facing burnout, helping them transition from states of chronic pain and stress to enhanced strength and clarity. By cultivating inner energy, Qiveda provides a lifestyle practice that serves as a comprehensive tool for emotional and physical transformation.

Industry
E-commerce Retailer

Topics

  • chronic pain relief
  • real estate
  • moving meditation
  • physical recovery
  • stress reduction
  • personal development

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